Crazy lunch with a crazy man

 Had lunch today with a tea bagger in his early 70's, owned a business for years. Racist as the day is long. We went round and round at lunch, and the old boy bout poped a blood vessel in his neck, man he got pissed off when I confronted his Fox Limbaugh bullshit.  He went off on mexicans on welfare, when I told him emigrants start businesses at a higher rate than the natives, which is true throughout history the new guys are the ones that start most the businesses, he went nuts, can't be true he says they are welfare tit suckers, but I stuck with it because I am right and I can prove it.  They are driving down wages, ruining this country he said.  A few minutes later he was talking about manufacturing was being ruined cause we can't compete, our wages are too high.  I had his ass in a sling.  Make up your mind, either our wages are too low or too high, either the cause is greedy workers or mexicans working cheap you can't have it both ways.  Man he was pissed that I caught him.   But, off to another issue, Obama is a Muslim, no he's fucking not.  The EPA won't let people in Southern Missouri build fences or houses or even tear down a barn, you can't get permits, the EPA took over.  Bullshit I said I'll get on line at a county in south Missouri and see if there are any building permits being approved, he got mad again bout went red head on me, not he says it's true, nope I don't believe the EPA has the red necks of Missouri by the balls no sir-e.  And on we went.  At one point he predicted within a couple months the "patriots" will kill 30 senators and then god damn it will change.   Then he gets on gun control and says were just around the corner from a Hitler takeover, as soon as they take our guns then they start killing us, gun control was the method used by Hitler Stalin Pol Pot Mao, nope I said Hitler didn't get power by taking guns he won a motherfucking election and lots of people liked what he was doing cause they were plenty of fucking racist.  No no he said read your history your not reading history, I said fine I will read it this afternoon and not on a fucking NRA site but multiple history sites to get the real story, then he starts quoting Hitler, fuckers got it memorized, the quote I found below and another that Hitler was to have said in a speech that if public doesn't turn in their guns in 3 days they will hang them and their family all.  I told him John, how the hell can you get out of bed in the morning if you live in a world like this, there is no hope you can win if you live believing all this fantasy,  this is paranoia, your depressing god damn depressing.  Well that startled him and he did get a bit less worked up as we talked further, but wow what a fucking lunch.  So I come home, and research in some books and internet and sent it to him, a few hours pass and he emails me, never mentions what I sent, but it's a fucking recording of a rant by some Christian dude claiming Muslims will take over by out breeding us and lets hate hate hate them.  I shoot back an email that our only chance was to bring in Mexican Catholics to compete, do I have some fucking friends here or what?
........letter to lunch buddy.....

The totalitarian regime of Hitler in 1938 passed the German Weapons Act which eased (except for Jews) the gun laws in place since the late 1920's.

The main provisions:

*Guns could only be owned by citizens of Germany.  Jews by about that time had already had their citizenship revoked, the law applied to ammunition as well. Jews were also forbidden to manufacturing or deal in firearms and ammunition.

*As in the post WWI law this law requiring gun manufacturers and dealers to maintain records with information about who purchased guns and the S/N, these records were due to the police at the end of each calendar year.  

Changes easing the earlier laws were:

*The legal age to purchase (not to hunt or practice but purchase) a gun was lowered from 20 to 18.

*Gun permit was now valid for three years, increased from one.

*Permit acquisition was expanded and speeded for: holders of annual hunting permits, government employees, NAZI's, employees of Germans Railways.

Later in 1938 an additional law was passed with the single provision which deprived "all Jews of the right to possess firearms or other weapons", thus almost anything could be deemed a weapon if held by a Jew.

Today German gun laws prohibit ownership by those: convicted of crime, with record of mental issues, deemed unreliable due to drugs alcohol addiction or history of aggression.  Training class is required to get a weapon, you must show you can handle it, permits are specific to different types of guns. 

The idea that the Jews, if they could have kept their pistols and shotguns could have prevented or fought off the Nazis pretends that they could have done what it took 30+ millions dead on that continent to do with tanks and airplanes.   

  

The quote attributed to Hitler and sometimes claimed to be from 1935.: "This year will go down in history! For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!" No recording and no transcript of a Hitler speech is known to exist proving this.  It seems out of place in the language of the 1930's Germany for the term "full gun registration" to be used, rather it is clearly a term of much political weight and freight in todays discussion of guns in the US.   The guns taken by Hitler were from Jews, the laws for the rest were actually relaxed which and helped Hitlers standing since the laws and restrictions placed on Germany following defeat in WWI was hated by the public.

As for gun control in Russia, I looked into that, Russia was a place of extreme concentrated wealth and massive poverty, the few monarchy types and millions and millions of peasants with no middle class.  Few peasants owned guns, they couldn't have afforded it, guns were not made for mass consumption at low prices as now.  Stalin unleashed pure terror following the killing of his #2 man, (can't remember the name now), it is pretty sure #2 was killed on Stalin's orders, using it as an excuse he set in motion a complete extermination plan for his enemies and the farmers in much of Russia were on his enemies list for variety of reasons ethnic and economic.  Rather than gather weapons it was the opposite, Stalin flooded weapons to tough guys and thugs and so called patriots police types in a reign of terror that was massive widespread and little more than a civil war on a population that had already seen destruction during the revolution.   But this was nothing like that, it was far more violent, millions were killed or driven to exposure and starvation.  When Hitler attacked he emptied the prisons, gave the former enemies weapons and sent them against the Nazi, those that survived were put back in prison or shot on their first mis-step following the war.  There appears not to be a gun control policy like what the American people are talking about at the moment that caused the Russian revolution or  Stalin's hellish killing spree.

For Pol Pot he put in place one gun law.  It said Vietnamese cannot sell guns, or move them around.  Guns were in short supply, even Pol Pot's soldiers had very few at the start of their take over, they struggled the entire regime's time to get weapons.  The nation was a poor casual and polite society of gardening, small farms and crafts, they ate little meat so even guns for hunting was of little interest to the populace.  Gun control existed there naturally, Pol Pot did not implement it.

Mussolini spoke often and threatened all kinds of gun controls.  None, not one was ever put in place.

I can't find anything about China, but I suspect there were so few guns in China that if Mao collected them it didn't matter much, and at the moment I don't care, this is enough research.

Enjoyed lunch!